At such high bitrates, the difference is largely technical. I am confident you will not be able to tell them apart from your flacs. When you set the quality slider to just below the max setting, you will produce files that are perfectly fine. Happy convertin'.
Well, there sort of is Of course, it mainly just pads out each frame to equal kbps. Quote from: dhromed on Quote from: MikeFord on Quote from: takeshibeat on I doubt there's anyone that would be able to hear the difference between the two regardless of the level of equipment unless there are strong measures in place to make that difference more distinguishable.
In summary, there is no really perceivable difference between V0 and CBR so I wouldn't even worry about it. Just use V0 in Foobar and it'll be perfect. I swear to you that if you hear it, it's placebo affect. ABX testing, which you can do in Foobar, would prove me right.
I am known to have extraordinary hearing and I've confirmed these results to myself. I was pretty bummed actually Last Edit : by db If you don't care for space just use CBR VBR is to save space but also aims to keep quality constant. Technically cbr should be the best quality mp3. There is no easy setting for k vbr and V0 is much lower like k.Lossless audio 1 2 next Print 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Happy New Year and greetings everyone! I know the folks here at Hydrogen audio have been around and back with regards to these tests Nonetheless, I've been collecting data from around the audio forums since early Dec I'm only planning to collect data until the end of January There's 2 weeks left so if you've ever been curious about participating in a blind test or just want to add to the dataset, here's your chance The "test" is relatively simple and consists of 3 musical passages encoded as "Set A" vs.
Come to my blog to download the music and fill out the survey: Archimago's Musings Thanks and have a wonderful !
OOps - the title should have read 'ends Jan 31' Just out of curiosity, which forums have you been posting to, and what kind of responses are you getting? Quote from: pdq on Quote from: Destroid on Ok, thanks for catching my rash assumption.
So, I guess it will be interesting in reading about why a music lover would go after kbps, and, whether that audio aficionado could detect a difference to the lossless source. My best guess why this is issue is of concern: buying music online. Reading the test description one flaw seems to be that you encoded one set with a lossless encoder let's call it "A"and the other with a lossy MP3 encoder "B".
Since you don't enforce the use of a software which ensures the test is being conducted in a double-blind fashion, so that the experimenter himself doesn't know which file is which until the test is finished, the following chain of events might occur: Someone might analyse the spectra of the files and look for MP3 signatures beforehand, or conduct a successful test, and thus be able to determine correctly that file "B" is the lossy one.
He then might publish it, which will affect any listeners who don't use a DBT software. To me, the only way to ensure a proper test is to ensure that no cheating is possible in the first place, i. The questionnaire reduces the test to a single question about whether "A" or "B" is the inferior source.
How will you be able to exclude guesses from your results, if you only have this single question at the beginning, and not a full test result with a number of trials that reduce your likelihood of the result occurring by chance to below 0.
Last Edit : by Kohlrabi. There is a further problem. Suppose that a listener is able to reliably differentiate between the two versions, but he prefers the sound of the lossy encoded file. This will then skew the results toward listeners NOT being able to hear a difference. Last Edit : by pdq. Cheers, David. Quote from: Kohlrabi on I'm going to decline your invitation Archimago.
You don't want to actually post at a reasonable place like HA, you're just trying to get hits on your blog. Quote from: testyou on Quote from: DonP on Closes next week. Thanks to all participants.
Study complete!I have been searching for a long time for tools checking the real quality of MP3 files. Many tools will just base their assumptions on the bitrate and encoder type alone i.
MP3 is a lossy compression and will sacrifice quality for size. To do this without being noticed too much, MP3 uses a technique based on Psychoacoustics, where it filters out quite frequencies that are adjacent to loud frequencies. To preserve even more space and so use lower bitrate, the encoder will filter out more frequencies.
At some point that process becomes noticeable. This description is far from complete. If you want to know more about psychoacoustics, read this Wikipedia article. AAC is known as the successor to MP3 and can achieve much better quality than at the same bitrate, through better use of the psychoacoustic schemes. Just for the record, there are some loss-less compression technique out there, like FLAC. These techniques will reduce the size of CD quality music without discarding any frequencies.
The reproduction of this compressed file will be bit-by-bit identical to the source. Flac is mainly used for archiving CD collections and can achieve a considerable reduction in filesize. In doing so, they incorrectly assume the quality will improve.
Nothing will ever recover what was lost. The analysis is based on the frequency spectrum of the sound in the MP3 file. You can visualize this in many audio editors like Audition. We will be looking for giveaway features of most if not all MP3 encoders, i. The above image shows the spectral analysis of a CD quality file. The way it works is quite simple: The X axis is time, the Y axis is frequency and the illumination is the volume.
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If I may make a recommendation, consider your questions from the standpoint of transparency. Lame is generally accepted to achieve this at -V2. Then there is no question, and future-proofing is possible. Spend some time poking around the rest of the HA wiki. Be extremely wary of listening to random people about audio matters, especially as it relates to often misunderstood topics like perceptual encoding. Not really a fan of the term transparency. First off, it is completely subjective.
Different files sound differently to different people. Additionally, it is also VERY dependent on what speakers you are playing your music on and how you have connected. I am not exaggerating. I have tested this numerous times and every single time the difference is very apparent for me. So yeah, transparency? Not so much.
The only thing "transparent" for me are the lossless files themselves. I am just wondering if there is at all any difference between a lame encoded which peaks at 20khz and a that peaks at 22khz, and what other lossy encoders are out there besides lame. You cannot hear such high frequency so no it doesn't matter. Also transparency isn't subjective and better equipment can make artifacts easier or harder to hear, not just easier like you're assuming.
Last Edit : by saratoga. Any reason to wait someone else to google lossy encoders for you? Quote from: saratoga on Quote from: xdesirex22 on In all likelihood they'll sound the same both be transparent most of the time given the high bitrate. For problem samples, a few more bits may well be placed "where it matters" and help reduce artifacts if you have a low-pass filter in place. In halb27's lame3. It seems to do the trick in fixing short-block problem samples to those people who've tested it so far, and that's well below 20kHz nearer In this case he's doing even better at putting the extra bits "where it matters" by realising that "where it matters" can be further limited to "short blocks" as well as "frequencies up to about 17 kHz".
Last Edit : by Dynamic. Quote from: Kohlrabi on I think we can safely chalk this discussion up as another futile attempt to rank lossy encodings using inappropriate metrics.
We don't listen with our eyes. Last Edit : by greynol. Quote from: yourlord on Also: most of the PA equipment I ever came into contact with didn't waste valuable energy on ultrasonics. Compared to the HiFi-crowd, the PA-crowd is refreshingly practical and there's far less voodoo. To the O. It's a big task to chip away at all the misconceptions that underlie this sort of thinking, but I'm confident that anyone can learn how audio compression works, provided they are willing to learn and think about it scientifically.
HA is a great resource for that, since we have rules that any claims of audible difference be backed up by a scientifically valid test such as ABX. Other forums do not have these rules, and so all sort of misinformation gets passed around unchecked.
Besides that, there are quite a few software and codec developers who hang around here, who know their software and the field in general, very deeply.